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Bug out bags Go bags

​Justin asked;

What is everyone’s opinion on a long term scenario grab & go bag?

If you’re trying to retain the ability to stay Mobile

Avoiding access gear & gadgets weighing you down and getting snagged on debris while traveling.  What do you have packed & why?

Newer synthetic or wool clothing

Sleeping bag, bivi sack, woobie or wool blankets

Plastic, nylon, canvas or other tarp

My answers, not complete answer to every question here, but some Highlights!

( Apologise in advance… Not spell checked or edited, I merely copied my answer from my phone fb post. Takes a lot of data to use phone as wifi hub with laptop.) 

…Also.. stock images as my laptop fried and I am transferring stuff. Will update later…

Winter.

Spring and fall.

Summertime would need a different bag, depending on location. Eg. Northern Canada forest and hill environment, or Mountain areas. Vs Southern California. 
Knowledge is the lightest and best of burdens to Cary. 

Water, fire, shelter, footwear, food.

Skills, trapper, hunter gatherer mixed with Ultra Lightweight hiking. 

Take courses, get good reference books, learn learn learn and above all get out and practice.

Water. Get two purification methods. Tablets and a Saywer Water Filter system.

Water, learn where and how to gather. Eg, trapper and hunter style, dig down beside running water source, about a foot away. This water will be mostly safe. Can be collected and lightly filtered, using charcoal, sand system, your sawyer water filter, or boiling or both. 
Learning how to do the basics, attend classes, take courses. 

But. All the skills in the world won’t keep you alive for too too long without a place to go.
When I was younger and had food health, I would ultra light weight hike and camp for up to 3 months at a time.
. Water Filter

Light weight rain proof muslin sheet (just slightly heavier than ripstop but much more durable.

Bivie Bag, with netting.

Two sleeping pads, one dens foam the other was the self inflating Thermarest, wrapped up in a small waterproof canvas sheet, bound with two nylon straps.

Note, if you are better than me with knots, anyone really,  use hemp rope.

Small alcohol stove, inside a larger Hobo stove, and bottle of pure alcohol, along with cook set.

Boots for hiking, best you can buy heavy hiking boots. Light ones do not last.

Two pairs of clothes, 3 pairs of socks and underwear. Clean every couple of days.
Sleeping bag with liner. Even in summertime temps drop, especially in Mountains. 

I have gone to bed in a T-shirt and woken up pushing the bivie bog off of me due to unexpected and sudden snowfall. More than once.

My bag liner which was normally used in winter or summer as a stand alone, was either a polypropylene sac or a cotton sheet, sown as a sleeping bag itself.
Some only use thick wool blankets, others don’t. Some carry more some less.

A good six inch blade along with a smaller camp knife will do. 

Some carry; axes, tomahawks, hatchets, machetes. Up to you. I have since the 90’s carried a Kurkri Machete, instead of an axe.
Food. 

Learn to forage, hunt and fish.

In a bug out scenario, get ahead of the golden hord, or no food. The will trample everything underfoot, piss on it or shit on it. They will kill everything that they see, not know how to harvest properly and leave 50% or more to rot.

Dehydrated foods including meat, grains, mix of beans with rice, supplemented with foraging, fishing and hunting. That is how I went in for up to 3 months at a time.

An old cooking skill is to heat and boil in morning, pit into insulated container and eat at lunch and supper.

Small sealed bags of spices are your friend. Along with foraging to pop in the rice and beans, keeps the taste buds happy happy. 

Also very light.
I carried everything in a medium sized Alice Pack or a larger Canadian Forces Cargo Pack. 

Larger one in winter.
Weight was about 25-35 pounds summer, not including blades.
Winter was about 45 ish.

Not including blades, snowshoes and or skis.
Fire… I go way overboard here. And. I suggest all do the same.

Lots of extras, on or in pants pocket, on or in jacket, inside and on pack. All inside multiple plastic bags or rubber bags, water proof.

.. two or three differnt types of strikers, two different lighters, small plastic, BBQ and flip open (keep in airtight container as they slowly loose fuel) 

Matches, regular, wind proof, waterproof lots. 

Keep picking up fluff tinder as you walk or move, put in tinder pouch, when full, put in jacket pocket. 

Now I also carry cotton balls in plastic bags, some try, others soaked in veg oil and or petroleum jelly. Lots of bags. Overkill, just wait till after fall into the water or ice when it is close of below 0 deg, frozen fingers hurt and are very hard to use. You only have minutes and you destroy or scatter a lot of the tinter trying to get it going. Lots.
Packs

Hikers like internal frames, hunters trappers like the external ones. Normally there are exceptions.
External frames make hauling game, wood easier as well as hauling extra large bags of long term foods. Basically, human pack mules.
Cooking, 

Learn how to create tripods or swings, Hobo stoves and similar stoves…. 

Learn Dakota cook holes, Algonquin kitchen setups and basic campfires setups.

Learn to make and use alcohol stoves, I had a very expensive and extremely well made MSR Mountain stove. Ex wife got rid of half of it, $120 just to replace that part.  So, now I use cat can, liver can stoves, one pot stoves, see other blog posts with directions in blog.
Also, other tech

Walking hiking stick. I use a solid oak quarter staff, I used to Cary a walking stick, but, now a quarter staff. There are reasons, yes.

Shovel, spade, garden tool for digging small pits. .., Replaced with roofing hammer with almost straight claws. It can be used in winter, rocky ground, to assist in shelter building or in defence. Weighs more than a garden spade but so much more versatile.
I will keep updating as I remember or am able. This will be a work in progress.

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Water filter I have

This is the Sawyer product that I have
note this is the point one, I will be getting the point two in the spring or when money becomes available, for added health and safety reasons.

I also have the portable Berky Sport Bottle, for quick on the go drinking. Will be getting a LifeStraw soon as well.
ps. thanks for the compliment on my weird little blog all you folks it means a lot to me.

Here are the links for the water testing pages as well as the product pages
http://www.sawyer.com/
http://www.sawyer.com/documents/field-micro.pdf
http://www.sawyer.com/documents/field-micro2.pdf

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I love

I love driving early in the morning before the masses head out in their cars.

I love soft golden hue of the morning light, lightly touching the freshly dew’ed up long grasses and bulrushes.

I love the soft golden light as it plays along the freshly mowed hay, light dancing in and around the swells in the fields, the rolls and bales awaiting passage to the farm.

I love the smell of freshly mowed hay in the morning.

I love the sight of golden kissed ripples gently roll across the pond, or the still reflection of the still waters show the glory of the heavens above,

for all who venture forth early and are lucky enough to view the new day before the earth heats up and the sun passes that mystical line, from golden to yellow.

and

I love you for following along with my blog, taking time from your day to read this adventure as it unfolds!
Thank you

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No Army Surplus Store Improvise

Army Surplus Hardware Store Farmer Store

You don’t have or need an Army Surplus store although they help lots. Now you do have a few other stores there, like the hardware stores or farmers stores, even dollar stores there. Really those stores have just about everything you need as well. You need a BOB (Bug out Bag), Go Bag (normally in-car, because it goes with you) DODGE (get out of Dodge bag) which is a full everything bag. Now I suggest at least an alternative to the Car/Van as everything will be blocked by others. So how about bicycles with trailers, motorcycles, ATV’s, all with or without trailers. Relocate to a remote area, join the community for no single person or small group can stop the angry hordes of Zombies. Zombies = non Pepper’s or Survivalist out to steal or kill you for your food. Of course that is in the absolute worse case scenarios. 


look up;
cat can stoves
penny stoves
wood gasification stoves
hobo stoves
Fondue pot sets with the alcohol burner – very good and portable, can also be used in a regular can that is modified
use denatured alcohol – methyl hydrate – high test rubbing alcohol – 90-95% proof buy it by the gallon.
there are your stoves
Fire
matches – regular since they are cheap
matches wind proof
matches water proof
zippy style lighter (remember it evaporates so test it, then keep small bottle of fluid with it)
extra flints – cheap now, get lots
regular lighter
torch lighter
small torch
magnesium fire sticks with strikers
secondary magnesium fire sticks with strikers (yup.. double up)
one handed stickers, just saw them, cheap easy to use, wet-dry-cold
Vaseline/chap stick/
rub onto
cotton balls/dryer lint
put into zip lock bags
> make some char cloth, very easy to do, youtube how to do this
Shelter
cheap poly tarp to start
search for good quality ground sheets
get good quality tarps
get better quality canvas tarps
light portable small good quality tent
look for self contained canvas tents
> I now have 3, a. 10×8 b.10×10 c. 5×5 bell style older camper style
>why, long lasting, great quality, easy to maintain, will not die in the sun in one year, easy to insulate
>cons, little heavier, if you have a vehicle not too bad
Water
2x military water bottles with the cup and holder – a must.. with these and these along you can survive in the wilderness
water purification tabs
water purification units – portable filtration units such as;
>larger home style filtration units like the Berky or Big Berky
>youtube and instructables.com have info sessions about creating your own Berky style for cheap
>water containers, do not get the little bottles they are not eco friendly and are not safe
>>bigger 3-5gal water containers, big blue and grey barrels
>harvest rainwater -after 2 minutes or so the water is pure, harvest from a tarp or roof, there are lots of devices out there to help, such as rain water diverters.
huge list on water enjoy this link and memorize it, you can live without food, minimum shelter only for up to 30 days but only 3-6 days with no water!
Food
every time you buy food get some extra
> example; I bought some foil packaged portion fish at a store for $3 per bag, got two of them, tasty and long lasting
two weeks later, at dollar store same fish, 4-6yr expiriry, for .99c each, got 50
dehydrated foods
ready to eat meals
MREs – good for about 2-3 meals each package, so they are not too bad then at $8-$10 for one MRE, div by 3 meals
now start making your own ready to eat meals
Tools Knives
Caution; having a bad knife is worse than no knife!
folding blades with NO locks are bad, exceptions are the Swiss Army Knives and Multi tools
> use with caution and I never really use the knife anyways
Knife sharpener system
folding knives over 3″ with a locking blade
5″-8″ regular style fixed blade, full tang as in full metal till the end of the handle (incase you did not know what a full tang meant)
K-bar, kbar awesome US Marine, WWII fighting and utility knife.
Big Bush knife 8″-14″ yup you read it right
cutting down small trees, battoning etc
Kukri Knifes and Kukri Machete.
MTech Kukri knife similar to mine but mine has a wood handle

MTech Kukri knife similar to mine but mine has a wood handle

Custom Makers so support local;
that being said they are also more expensive but if the maker is good, you get what you pay for and more
MTech similar brand than the  Cold Steel but very good, US company but made in China. I have quite a few of their knives and like them a lot! Have not broken or hurt any of them yet.
MTech is a division of MASTER CUTLERY 
* Hatchets are dangerous!!
> why, top/front heavy so you miss a lot with them, no fulcrum action, many injuries to people especially kids with them
Tomahawks are better and can be used in a Defensive way as well.
Kukri’s are great can be used for most anything, but learning to through one, takes lots and lots of practises. You will ruin you good one, while learning to do this.
Here is an excellent link to a company in Nepal who exports and creates Kukris, follow the link to see some info on how to use and sharpen them.
Tools general
 pry bar
ax
rope
thin gauge wire
lots and lots of bits
Cold Steel Russian Army Spetsnaz Shovel (multi uses from digging to fighting, can also be thrown effectively )
Moe to follow, this will be a work in process, I will also add more images to this later.

Fishing gear small porty
trapping gear small porty
sleeping gear
slingshot/slingbow/take down bow with arrows

Navigation
Silva Compass and maps


Dogs
Dog pack as in Dog Back Pack (mine is a two part system, one part is the pack other part is the harness system)
-> great system, take off the pack for breaks and throw it back on quickly when you need to move out. Keeps the dog fresher and quick apply system keeps your temper under control!

Dog coat/blanket, even they get cold and wet, especially short hair dogs. You make them work, rub them down at night, through on their coat and it can be used as their bed as well for less cold nights
* you have a dog that is asleep, but still able to awake and alert you to the Zombie Hordes
water container/food container
collapsible food bowl or small rigid metal water bowl that nests with the food bowl
-> reason, you can heat up the bowl if the water freezes in cold weather
food, make them carry some of their own food, daily rations at least
fire making kit/first aid kit/utility knife/bug screen/sun screen
Bicycle
Bike Pack
Bike Trailer
spare tire/spare inner-tubes/wheel change kit/tire patch kit
front rack/back rack
bike with trailer hitch for attaching trailers/sleds/wagons/etc

Vehicle kit
yes your bug out bag, now lets see to the car/vans survival as well
tire repair kit
small porty 12v air compressor
first aid kit
engine oil/transmission oil/wind-shield fluid/brake fluid/

EDIT:
now I have added some stuff that you can not find at a local hardware store, although you can find or order 98% of this stuff from Canadian Tire, maybe there is an Auzzy Tire?
look around and get creative

I forgot I made another post, so here it is for reference and I will merge them and make one big post soon!

https://wildernessreturn.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/bob-food-suggestions/

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How we plan to make the permy garden soon

Hi there,
We plan on creating our forest garden in the following ways;

Look up Permaculture as stated, then start planting some 3 Sisters Garden, the following link is the Google info page on it in raised garden beds. Look to info from
Sepp Holzer, Here is a link to his Farm and info Website
Sepp Holzer, Here is a link to his Farm and info Website
(awwwww well since it took me so long to make the links work, I will keep the double links to Sepp Holzer, he deserves it!)
Geoff Lawton and Here is the link to the Permaculture Australia site

Bill Mollinson Here is a link to a Wiki article on him

They all suggest multiple raised beds, which are really easy to make their way like little long rows of TeePees with some Fruit and nut trees in the middle of the rows. They all put in over 20 variety’s of plants, Sepp Holzer uses his own special blend of seeds which contain over 40+ varieties of seeds. They just scatter the seeds in randomly or plant some in a loose pattern and cover with a thin layer of topsoil. So it becomes a Bordello instead of just the 3 sisters, the more the merrier.

You do need to follow a few simple permaculture rules;
water is needed in the swails to help sustain the raised beds
you need plants of varying rood depth and varying heights mixed all together
some deep rooting fruit and nut trees in the middle of the swails will help with pulling up deep moisture, creating shade and lead to long term food production.
create some self sustaining Frog ponds at first
longer term you want some self sustaining frog and fish ponds
rocks are your friends, they help bring and keep the heat, provide moisture underneath and a hiding area for beneficial insects and reptiles
worms are your friends, lots and lots and lots of worms.

Put in a wee frog pond, with some water plants in the middle of it all, put rocks and some stumps in the water, add Frogs and watch what happens, quite interesting.
For some info on the Frog pond watch the Lecture Series #5 by Will Hooker Prof. NCS in the USA – follow through to a great and interesting presentation and video series on Permaculture

Edited 5 times to make the links work, I am not sure why WordPress Hickoped like that, so I did the link manually, and now they work.
cheers WildE

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